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Der neue Film stat zu Der neuer Film

bootheryan
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Der neue Film stat zu Der neuer Film

Postby bootheryan » June 11th, 2010 10:16 pm

Hi guys, I'm a bit confused about a couple of declensions and would greatly appreciate any explanations. In the Intermediate Lesson S2 #26 - Haven’t You Heard of This German Movie?! lesson, there were a couple of things written that I didn't understand.

1. Der neue Bond Film klingt interessant. Why is isn't it "neur" with an r?

2. Ich finde es doof, wenn man die echten Stimmen der Schauspieler nicht hören kann. and Deutsche Filme kannst du in Amerika nicht so leicht finden. What triggers the n on the end of the word Film?

3. Hmm, nicht schlecht, aber mir wäre eine Komödie lieber, etwas lustiges. Why don't you need the word es after the word aber?

Thanks in advance for any light you can shed on this.

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Postby Sprachprofi » June 12th, 2010 8:13 pm

Hi,

Intermediate S2 Lesson #13 contains an overview of declensions, and in Intermediate S3 Lessons 10, 11, 14, 15 and 20, 21 we explain each case and its changes in great detail.

In short, there is a concept of key endings and bland endings. For every case there's a key ending, such as -er for masculine Nominative singular (yielding "der", "neuer", "Deutscher", etc.) or -e for Nominative & Accusative plural for all genders (yielding "die", "neue", "Deutsche", etc.). These key endings are important for comprehension and won't typically be slurred in speech, unlike the bland endings. However, when you have a line of words that could each take the key endings, for example article + adjective + noun, only the first suitable word gets the key ending and the others will adopt a bland ending, which is usually -en or -e (it depends on the case). Hence we'd say "DER neue Bond Film" or "Ein neuER Bond Film" - in the first case, "der" takes the key ending and "neue" gets a bland ending; in the second case "einer" isn't a valid masculine form, so the key ending is only used on "neuer".

Nouns such as "Stimme" and "Film" don't change according to the declensions; they just have one form for singular (Stimme, Film) and one form for plural (Stimmen, Filme). However, there are a few types of nouns that add endings much like articles and adjectives, for example nouns ending in -er.

3. Hmm, nicht schlecht, aber mir wäre eine Komödie lieber, etwas lustiges. Why don't you need the word es after the word aber?

"eine Komödie" is the subject. The sentence could be "Eine Komödie wäre mir lieber"; "es" doesn't make sense to add to this sentence. We just change the word order in order to emphasize that IN MY OPINION a comedy would be better.

I hope this helps! :-)

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Postby bootheryan » June 12th, 2010 9:52 pm

I will definitely check out those episodes in season three. I've been trying to go through the old lessons systematically so I haven't caught up yet. Thanks for the clarification.

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